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WASHINGTON, D.C.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> \u2013 Today, during a hearing of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee (HSGAC), U.S. Senator Jacky Rosen (D-NV) questioned Chad Wolf, the Trump Administration\u2019s nominee to serve as Secretary of <\/span><\/span><\/span>the Department of Seguridad nacional<\/span> (DHS). During her questioning, Senator Rosen highlighted the <\/span>egregious actions that occurred at DHS during Mr. Wolf\u2019s time as Chief of Staff to a former DHS Secretary, as Under Secretary, and under his watch as Acting Secretary.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

A transcript of the Senator\u2019s full exchange can be found below, and a video of the Senator\u2019s full exchange can be found aqu\u00ed<\/a><\/u>.<\/span><\/span><\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

ROSEN:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> I want to go back to your confirmation hearing for the Under Secretary position that was before this committee on June 12, 2019.  I asked if you were involved in developing the family separation policy and you answered me, unequivocally: \u201cNo ma\u2019am.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

I asked you how you became aware of the policy and you told me QUOTE \u201cthrough discussions with staff \u2013 discussion leading up to the Attorney General\u2019s announcement in April 2018.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

After that hearing, an email exchange became public from December 2017. You emailed a Justice Department spokesman, attaching a memo with the file name and I QUOTE \u201cUAC Options\u201d \u2013 UAC meaning \u201cUnaccompanied Children.\u201d You wrote in the email to the other official that YOU worked with others to pull the memo together, and that the purpose of the memo was to give then-DHS Secretary Nielsen QUOTE \u201can idea of what SHE can do right away versus actions that will take months plus to implement.\u201d END QUOTE.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

When you open the attached memo, it\u2019s called \u201cPolicy Options to Respond to Border Surge of Illegal Immigration\u201d and out of 16 policy options, family separation is number TWO on the list.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

So let me ask you this: I asked if you helped develop this policy, and you told me no, is that correct?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

WOLF: <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b>That\u2019s correct.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

ROSEN: <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b>You and several others QUOTE \u201cpulled together\u201d a memo for the DHS Secretary that discussed the family separation policy. And this policy was implemented. We know that children were separated from their parents at the hands of our government. So let\u2019s go back to this cover email. You said that the purpose of this memo was to give SECRETARY NIELSEN \u2013 the DHS Secretary, the person whose Chief of Staff that you were \u2013 an idea of what she could do immediately, versus what would take months, is that correct?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

WOLF: <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b>That\u2019s correct.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

ROSEN: <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b>So at your confirmation hearing, when I asked you if you helped develop this policy, you didn\u2019t mention this memo, is that correct?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

WOLF:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> I don\u2019t believe that memo was discussed at that hearing, no.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

ROSEN:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> Thank you. So, let\u2019s talk about your memo. Here\u2019s what it says for the number two policy option: QUOTE \u201cAnnounce that DHS is considering separating family units, placing the adults in adult detention, and place the minors . . . in the custody of HHS as unaccompanied alien children,\u201d or UACs. But those children you recommended classifying as UACs were NOT actually unaccompanied, were they, Mr. Wolf?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

WOLF:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> I\u2019m sorry can you repeat your question?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

ROSEN:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> You said you we\u2019re going to separate \u2013 this is what you said in your memo\u2014and I\u2019m quoting, you \u201cconsidered separating family units and treating the children as unaccompanied.\u201d They weren\u2019t unaccompanied, they were part of family units. That\u2019s what you said in your memo. You called them unaccompanied but they weren\u2019t.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

WOLF:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b>  Again, unaccompanied is a legal terminology. Let me just say, it was not my memo. You keep referring to it as my memo. As I said last year, Secretary Nielsen relied on not only her operators but also her policy \u2013 her immigration attorneys to develop policy options.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

ROSEN:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> You were part of her team, and as her chief of staff, you have direct relationship and responsibility. You were part of a series of memos that went on, deciding to separate children and treat them as unaccompanied.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

WOLF:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> I had a responsibility to make sure that the Secretary was fully staffed. Any time we talk about immigration within the department. I appreciate it may sound simple, but it is anything but simple. Making sure that we pull USCIS, ICE, CBP, General counsel policy office\u2026<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

ROSEN:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> I understand, but I have a chief of staff, and anyone who has a chief of staff understands that this is a difficult job.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

WOLF:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> That was not my portfolio, it was not my issue set at that time.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

ROSEN:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> So let me ask you this question. You\u2019ve been Acting Secretary for 10 months.  Do you now consider it your job to speak truth to power when utterly abhorrent policies like this get proposed, and do you support ending family separation.  Do you stand by that, you testified to that?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

WOLF:<\/span><\/span><\/b> As I testified last year, I testify again this year. I support the President\u2019s decision when he issued an executive order to stop that practice, as the department did. And we executed that executive order I believe in June 2018.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

ROSEN:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> Thank you. I\u2019d like to talk about the ending of TPS quickly. Nevada is home to more than 4,000 TPS holders and their families. These are mothers and fathers, members of their communities, 1,700 of those are essential critical infrastructure workers, meaning they provide services that Americans depend on to operate during this COVID-19 pandemic, and all of our response efforts according to DHS guidance.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

And so, we know what happened last week, the decision to deport TPS recipients. <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

In light of the federal appeals court decision, what are the Department\u2019s plans for TPS for the countries of El Salvador, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Sudan?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

WOLF:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> So, we\u2019re not taking any measures at this time, as you know. We can\u2019t do that, I believe, until <\/span><\/span><\/span>about 52 days after that court decision. 45 days is allowed for individual parties to appeal that decision\u2026we certainly expect that decision to be appealed. So basically it starts from that 52 or 53 day, we then look at a number of those TPS decisions<\/span> that have been issued. You\u2019re probably looking at the earliest 180 days out before any individuals, any TPS orders are enforce. So it\u2019s still very much in the courts unfortunately. We\u2019ll continue to play it out in the courts even though we did a have a 9th<\/sup> Circuit decision last week. There\u2019s still very much\u2026and there\u2019s other lawsuits I would say in other court cases, depending on the country that we\u2019re talking regarding TPS. All that is to say there is not one answer on how we\u2019re addressing TPS the decision was made.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

ROSEN:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> Would you consider speaking out <\/span><\/span><\/span>particularly on protect<\/span>ing essential workers that are important to our pandemic <\/span>response?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

WOLF:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> So, we\u2019ll continue to look at that. Again, we have about 180 days before there\u2019s going to be any action taken. But these are temporary programs. TPS is a temporary program. We litigated, we talked about this in 2017. Policy decisions were made by prior secretaries at that time, regarding TPS. If this is a population that the United States Congress feels very passionate about, very much like DACA, very much like these other types of temporary populations then I would encourage Congress to find a lasting solution for these individuals. <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

ROSEN:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b> I would love for us to do that too. And in the meantime, we are very short of those essential workers in many of our communities across this country and during a pandemic I would just urge special consideration of those families who are putting their own lives on the line to save others as we\u2019ve seen this week with over 200,000 families whose lives are forever altered by the loss of someone that they loved. Thank you Mr. Chairman. <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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