{"id":1606,"date":"2021-03-17T20:54:30","date_gmt":"2021-03-17T20:54:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/rosen-testing.senate.gov\/2021\/03\/17\/rosen-transcript-following-hearing-on-federal-actions-to-expand-broadband\/"},"modified":"2023-01-31T17:26:46","modified_gmt":"2023-01-31T17:26:46","slug":"rosen-transcript-following-hearing-on-federal-actions-to-expand-broadband","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rosen.senate.gov\/es\/2021\/03\/17\/rosen-transcript-following-hearing-on-federal-actions-to-expand-broadband\/","title":{"rendered":"Rosen Transcript Following Hearing on Federal Actions to Expand Broadband"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\">WASHINGTON, D.C.<\/span><\/span><\/b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\">&nbsp;\u2013&nbsp;Today, during a hearing of the Senate Committee Commerce, Science, and Transportation, U.S. Senator Jacky Rosen (D-NV) questioned Christopher Ali, Associate Professor in the Department of Media Studies at the University of Virginia; Jon Wilkins, Partner at Quadra Partners; Former FCC Commissioner Michael O\u2019Rielly; and Justin Forde, Senior Director of Government Relations at Midco about definitions for unserved and underserved broadband communities, and support for state flexibility in broadband deployment. A transcript of the Senator\u2019s full exchange can be found below, and a video&nbsp;of the Senator\u2019s full exchange can be found&nbsp;<b><u><a href=\"https:\/\/lfts.senate.gov\/seos\/1000\/mpd\/ui0204202122deb3a2ad545a62bbd492b5c7f66a39\"><span style=\"color:#0563c1\">aqu\u00ed<\/span><\/a><\/u>.<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\">ROSEN:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\">&nbsp;Over the course of the pandemic, broadband has played a role in almost every aspect of our lives \u2013 from education to health<\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"> <span style=\"color:#0e101a\">care to work. Congress has responded by increasing our focus on expanding broadband access, efforts I have strongly supported. But how we define and characterize broadband access also has a significant impact on policy development and resource allocation. As we discussed a little during Ranking Member Wicker\u2019s question, defining terms like \u201cunserved\u201d and \u201cunderserved\u201d can have significant implications on where we invest federal dollars, and how we do bring broadband out to everyone.&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\">In 2009, Congress defined \u201cunserved\u201d as any home or business that has a broadband speed of less than 10 megabits down, 1 megabit up\u2026 and \u201cunderserved\u201d as any home having speeds between 10\/1 and 25\/3.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\">Twelve years and one global pandemic later, our current FCC and USDA programs continue to use those same definitions to target critical dollars to deploy broadband infrastructure, despite demands on connectivity like telemedicine, and the need for ever-increasing speeds in everything we do.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\">So, for everyone on the panel, the pandemic has changed what it means to be unserved or underserved in terms of broadband access. So, should we revisit the definitions and update them on a regular basis so that no community gets left behind? Of course, technology is always changing, what are more appropriate benchmarks to use define if a community is served by broadband networks? Dr. Ali, I guess you can start us off, and then we can go down the line.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\">ALI:&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\">Absolutely. Thank you very much for the question Senator. As I\u2019ve said, I\u2019m a big proponent of the 100\/100 symmetric definition. I think what that allows is that we\u2019re connecting our communities with forward-looking technologies, we\u2019re connecting our communities with forward-looking speeds, rather than wiring communities to something that is just good enough for the time being and then leaving them to fend for themselves. So, I think 100\/100 as a definition.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\">O\u2019REILLY:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\">&nbsp;To your answer, and I respect and agree with a lot of the things you\u2019ve said, but I would not change the speed threshold at this time.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\">WILKINS: <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\">I think if the history of broadband shows us one thing, it\u2019s that we always tend to underestimate what\u2019s going to be needed a few years from now. I therefor think about it more as a question of what infrastructure can scale to meet future needs efficiently versus can we just pick a point today and say this is now the right number. And so, I think the performance criteria we think about for these investments might want to consider scalability as a separate measure versus a given speed on a given day.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\">PORTER:&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\">We should keep them where we\u2019re at until those folks that are truly unserved get broadband. Those speeds are more than sufficient. Again, as we\u2019ve mentioned before, the consumer, even during this pandemic, the number one driver of traffic is still downloading streaming services such as Netflix. Downloads are still 14 to 16 times higher, regardless of technology. It\u2019s just not something that consumers are asking for, and not something that we need to go to 100\/100 symmetrical speed for at this time.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\">ROSEN:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\"> Thank you, I want to go to one last question. I want to talk about supporting our state\u2019s efforts. I am proud to represent Nevada, a state with a mix of vibrant urban centers and vast rural areas, where more than 80% of our land is federally owned or managed. Deploying broadband therefore requires substantial federal and state coordination and cooperation between numerous state and federal stakeholders. For this reason, Nevada\u2019s Office of Science, Innovation, and Technology broadband office is on the ground advising communities, coordinating with federal, state, and private industry.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\">Through both the COVID relief bill we passed in December and the American Rescue Plan that President Biden signed into law last week, Congress has made significant investments to expand broadband coverage across this country.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\">So, I want to ask Dr. Ali and Mr. Wilkins, as we continue to build on those investments, how important is it to give states the flexibility they need \u2013 states like mine, who have to deal with DOD, and BLM, and DOE, the Department of Interior, you name it, we have the unique challenges in our state to expand broadband access, and how can we help facilitate better coordination across all areas of government to support broadband deployment?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\">ALI:<\/span><\/span><\/b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\"> That\u2019s a great question, Senator. Thank you for asking it. I am a big proponent of the importance of state broadband offices, exactly like you just said in your home state of Nevada. I think that they can perform incredible roles as being information wholesalers and bringing different stakeholders together, and even identifying stakeholders who might not realize they are stakeholders at the time. I really think \u2013 would encourage every state to have a robust and well-funded state broadband office to really diagnose the needs of their communities and counties.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\">WILKINS: <\/span><\/span><\/b><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\">Senator, in the RDOF process, I worked with states ranging from California to Alabama, and in between. And I would just say first, the current federal environment is hard for states and their local stakeholders to navigate, just as you said. The opportunity is so important though. If there are going to be substantial federal investments &#8212; I mean first point &#8212; those are not going to be probably until next year. Separate from the mapping, I mean we\u2019re just at a point where Congress hasn\u2019t decided if new funds will be made available. Even things like RDOF to our 5G fund are on track for probably next year, not this year. Having states have funds now to start those plans, to amplify the impact of federal investments somewhere down the road is just a huge opportunity because challenges state by state are different.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"text-align-center\"><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size:11pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif\"><span style=\"font-size:14.0pt\"><span style=\"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif\">###<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>WASHINGTON, D.C.&nbsp;\u2013&nbsp;Today, during a hearing of the Senate Committee Commerce, Science, and Transportation, U.S. Senator Jacky Rosen (D-NV) questioned Christopher Ali, Associate Professor in the Department of Media Studies at the University of Virginia; Jon Wilkins, Partner at Quadra Partners; Former FCC Commissioner Michael O\u2019Rielly; and Justin Forde, Senior Director of Government Relations at Midco [&hellip;]<\/p>","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[46,22],"class_list":["post-1606","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-press_release","tag-broadband","tag-infrastructure"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v24.9 - 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